Altlang Ideas Discussion

[Shemtov]

An interesting thought that occurred to me earlier on when working on my native american influenced vinlandic conlang.

A creole descendant of 17th century English and Algonquian, presuming a different outcome from the failed Roanoke colony. Algonquian would be the superstrate and English the substrate

Actually, why not Modern Delaware Pidgin? It also had Swedish and Dutch influence, and was spoken in what's now Delaware, NJ, Eastern Pennsylvania, NYC, and Southeast NYS. Looking at the Bibliography of the book where I learned that Delaware Pidgin existed, it references an article in another book collecting essays on the Short-Lived Colony of New Sweden (Which corresponded roughly to the Modern Greater Philidelphia Metro Region) that seems to have a sketch on the Pidgin; The Library system here in Queens has a copy, which I'm going to try to get ahold of.

[Ælfwine]

An interesting idea, but not quite what I'm looking for.

What I am thinking is that a successful Norse colony in Vinland potentially spurring earlier European colonization of the Americas. Perhaps Basque and French colonists colonize other parts of eastern canada followed by England and Scotland. Curious to know ehat managerie of languages might arise here. (Early divergent new world Scots dialect?)

Of course all these pidgins could still arise, like a Norse-Algonquian pidgin (interestingly enough a Basque-Algonquian pidgin was attested in OTL)