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Karhionza is my newest project. I guess it will not last long but who cares.

It is an attempt to combine a Tolkien style phonology with a non-Tolkien morphosyntax.


p f t s c k h
b v d z ɟ g
m n (ŋ)
l r
w j

i u
e o
ä

Maximal syllable structure is: CVR, where R is {l r n}.

The second line of consonants (voiced obstruents) appear only word-internally after a coda consonant.
Velar stops /k g/ and palatal stops /c ɟ/ are distinguished only before non-front vowels /ä, o, u/.
Sibilants are affricates after nasals.

Consonants, excluding the voiced obstruents that cannot appear between vowels, can be geminated between vowels.
Vowels do not have length distinction.
Possible diphthongs are: ai, au, ei, eu, oi.

The stress falls on the penultimate syllable if the word has two syllables or if the penultimate syllable is strong, i.e. has a coda or a diphthong).
If the stress does not fall on the penultimate syllable, it falls on the antepenultame one.
If a monophthong has stress on an open syllable, it lengthens phonetically.
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Nice. I love /eu/.

Can no voiced obstruents occur between vowels? Or is it only certain ones that cannot (and thus cannot be geminated)?
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Arayaz wrote: 28 Mar 2024 19:10 Nice. I love /eu/.

Can no voiced obstruents occur between vowels? Or is it only certain ones that cannot (and thus cannot be geminated)?
Voiced obstruents /b v d z ɟ g/ occur in VC[r, n, l]_V, nowhere else. This imitates things in Quenya.
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Verb pattern

preverb - incorporated noun - root - mood - person

Preverb is something that is called lexical affix. As I said in the other thread, they are still a bit mystery to me.

Incorporated nouns are reduced somehow.

Verb roots are usually monosyllabic and CVC[n, l, r]. They are something between a closed and an open class.

Mood
-a 'indicative, positive'
-e 'imperative'
-ko 'volitional'
-su 'subjunctive'
-ti 'negative indicative'
-po 'negative, imperative'
(maybe more)

There is a polypersonal agreement.

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	sg1O	sg2O	3O	pl1O	pl2O
sg1S	-	-ne	-i	-	-yol
sg2S	-ho	-	-la	-se	-	
3S	-lan	-li	-∅	-fa	-kjul
pl1S	-	-	-ta	-	-kar
pl2S	-hon	-	-ti	-hor	-		
If there is no object, the third person object form is used.
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Re: Karhionza

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Omzinesý wrote: 28 Mar 2024 21:25
There is a polypersonal agreement.

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	sg1O	sg2O	3O	pl1O	pl2O
sg1S	-	-ne	-i	-	-yol
sg2S	-ho	-	-la	-se	-	
3S	-lan	-li	-∅	-fa	-kjul
pl1S	-	-	-ta	-	-kar
pl2S	-hon	-	-ti	-hor	-		
If there is no object, the third person object form is used.
Is there no pl3S or pl3O?
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DV82LECM wrote: 29 Mar 2024 15:33
Omzinesý wrote: 28 Mar 2024 21:25
There is a polypersonal agreement.

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	sg1O	sg2O	3O	pl1O	pl2O
sg1S	-	-ne	-i	-	-yol
sg2S	-ho	-	-la	-se	-	
3S	-lan	-li	-∅	-fa	-kjul
pl1S	-	-	-ta	-	-kar
pl2S	-hon	-	-ti	-hor	-		
If there is no object, the third person object form is used.
Is there no pl3S or pl3O?
Third person agreement does not distinguish number. It just refers to an explicit NP or an anaphoric person whose number is known.
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