Replacement puns
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Replacement puns
We have a number of these in English:
bikini -> monokini (replacing bi- with mono-, as if the bi- in "bikini" were the prefix for two)
utopia -> dystopia (as if the u- in "utopia" were eu-; cf. euphemism/dysphemism, euphoric/dysphoric, and the like)
history -> herstory (replacing "his" with "hers")
other feminist coinages such as "femstruate" and "cuntroach"
copyright -> copyleft (as if the "right" in "copyright" referred to the political spectrum rather than legal rights)
me too -> me three (as if the "too" in "me too" were "two")
What are some replacement puns in other natlangs? Do you have any in any of your conlangs?
bikini -> monokini (replacing bi- with mono-, as if the bi- in "bikini" were the prefix for two)
utopia -> dystopia (as if the u- in "utopia" were eu-; cf. euphemism/dysphemism, euphoric/dysphoric, and the like)
history -> herstory (replacing "his" with "hers")
other feminist coinages such as "femstruate" and "cuntroach"
copyright -> copyleft (as if the "right" in "copyright" referred to the political spectrum rather than legal rights)
me too -> me three (as if the "too" in "me too" were "two")
What are some replacement puns in other natlangs? Do you have any in any of your conlangs?
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Re: Replacement puns
As in, to punish with puns? That's just a straight-up pun, not a replacement pun. For it to be a replacement pun, the word has to replace the punned-upon part of a word with another word/root that implies that replaced part.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Re: Replacement puns
German has "frau" 'one (female)' for "man" 'one' as if it was "Mann" 'man' and could be replaced with "Frau" 'woman'. (Note the different capitalizations!)
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I never knew about that, but that's fun! Sounds as if Teutonophone feminists are playing the same word games as Anglophone feminists.Creyeditor wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024 19:01 German has "frau" 'one (female)' for "man" 'one' as if it was "Mann" 'man' and could be replaced with "Frau" 'woman'. (Note the different capitalizations!)
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Replacement puns
I never understood the copyleft as being a political statement .... to me it's just about being different in one way but the same in another. Still just as much a pun, but not in the way you described it. Wiktionary just leaves the explanation open besides saying that it's a pun.
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A woman named Mary Daly used to use male- as a prefix replacing any mal-, to show the lesser value of men. It hasn't caught on even among radical feminists, and I suspect she wasn't intending it to.
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A woman named Mary Daly used to use male- as a prefix replacing any mal-, to show the lesser value of men. It hasn't caught on even among radical feminists, and I suspect she wasn't intending it to.
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Re: Replacement puns
I always wonder why unimportant isn't just portant.
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Is "pertinent" cognate, do you think?
Edit: I did some research. "Pertinent" is from Latin per-tenere, and "important" is from Latin in-porto ─ that's "in" as in the applicative, not negation. So they're not cognate, and "portant" was never a word ─ but it would be a classic example of back-formation, wouldn't it?
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It was a joke, but I think it would be a backformation.
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I'm trying to find out a replacement pun in Finnish but those latinisms are not that common.
There are some folk etymologies like Kaukasia -> kauk-Aasia 'far Asia' (people often lengthen the a) but no place is named Kaukafrikka.
There are some folk etymologies like Kaukasia -> kauk-Aasia 'far Asia' (people often lengthen the a) but no place is named Kaukafrikka.
Edit: This counts as a replacement pun, I think.
Junamaatti is a thing, an automate selling train tickets. Auto means 'car' as in many other languages. So it's "train-maton".
Junamaatti is a thing, an automate selling train tickets. Auto means 'car' as in many other languages. So it's "train-maton".
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Wow, good one! Delighted to learn that.Omzinesý wrote: ↑10 Apr 2024 20:40 I'm trying to find out a replacement pun in Finnish but those latinisms are not that common.
There are some folk etymologies like Kaukasia -> kauk-Aasia 'far Asia' (people often lengthen the a) but no place is named Kaukafrikka.
Edit: This counts as a replacement pun, I think.
Junamaatti is a thing, an automate selling train tickets. Auto means 'car' as in many other languages. So it's "train-maton".
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Replacement puns
man "one" and Mann "man" are in fact cognate!Creyeditor wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024 19:01 German has "frau" 'one (female)' for "man" 'one' as if it was "Mann" 'man' and could be replaced with "Frau" 'woman'. (Note the different capitalizations!)
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Did you ever hear of Alief Texas?Khemehekis wrote: ↑30 Mar 2024 03:32 Today I learned a new replacement pun: alief.
https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/alief
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I'd heard of Nacogdoches, Palestine, Plano, Highland, and Pearland. But never Alief.eldin raigmore wrote: ↑30 Apr 2024 01:21Did you ever hear of Alief Texas?Khemehekis wrote: ↑30 Mar 2024 03:32 Today I learned a new replacement pun: alief.
https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/alief
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!